RE: Greywarden > I am currently trying to report the following accounts, and more for runni
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Hi @adamada and thank you for joining us. I am aware of gangstalking's account.. However, there is no comparison between @madam-ak's posts and gangstalking. Gangstalking's account is a spam account that spams the same exact messages a trillion times. Yes, i know about the clicking display post to view it. @traciyork explained this to me. The fact that it is visible or not does not excuse the abuse @adamada of collective coordinated downvotes.
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Would the same principle apply to users who coordinate their upvotes? Can coordinated upvotes become an abuse? what if people just collectively agree they like the post, it's not wrong? what if people just collectively disagree and don't like the post? where do you want to put the line in abuse and not when it comes to collective voting?
Very good question @adamada and i am super glad you brought this up. I am under the impression, and there is verifiable facts, even screenshots about what i am going to mention, of coordinated circle jerking upvoting campaigns being attacked.
Every single somee account accused of this crime came under attack and blacklisted because of this. Later they were reinstated however through an appeals process with the Watchers.. I can bring those individuals who were accused and blacklisted for having voting rings to bring more clarity to our conversation here if you wish. So, based on this, the Watchers do indeed consider coordinated upvoting a violation. Unless this has recently changed and i am not aware of it.
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This little hive downvotes war is why I hate social media. A bunch of basement dwelling rats that feel like a czar having the ability to hate on someone just for fun. I thought hive would be different vs the old days of web2 where people create content and the corporation profits off your back, I guess I was wrong in thinking that web3 would be the future of allowing people to create content and earn. This is why hive is trashcan and yet the most underrated blockchain at the same time.
I think you misunderstand the part where I'm just asking for myself and NOT serving as a representative for the Watchers which I have no affiliation to or right to speak on their behalf. As for the blacklisted accounts and etc, if you're referring to the Watchers, they are one organization among many organizations that exist on Hive. They can claim to be official on their own but it's up to whoever wants to believe that in a decentralized ecosystem.
How they define abuse is up to them and other communities don't necessarily have to subscribe to what their definition of abuse is. People can make up their own rules like how coordinated upvotes is ok because the system allows it to be. Coordinated downvotes, while it sucks, is still allowed by the system. It's people that define the abuse and if you want to disagree or agree, you're going to accept the decentralization part of the ecosystem.
Don't generalize my participation with downvoting as being part of the system/group/organization, it can at times but not all the time. I downvote content because I don't like it once in a while. There's a lot of content I'd be downvoting here had I have more time to curate on Hive. Doesn't necessarily mean they violated anything, I just don't like the content or it being rewarded, or whatever floats my boat because freedom of expression.
The fact that can be verified is that everyone can collective use their votes for up and down and be coordinated with it. Voting is still an expression of speech.
Great explanation @amada. I was under the impression that the Watchers were the sole Hive Regulators in the Platform. Thanks for clarifying that for me @adamada, and certainly i am glad the Watchers are not the sole Authority on Hive and that the individual has a say. My apologies for my miss judgment. I will definitely take you at your word that you didn't have bad intentions in all of this. I truly appreciate people as you that are willing to debate matters and bring up great arguments.
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